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= Current proposals = | = Current proposals = | ||
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+ | === Acta === | ||
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+ | We can add the space of Lemon Cake (behind our beamer wall) to ours, this would be and extra 46 m2 for 500 euros a month. | ||
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+ | ==== Size ==== | ||
+ | * Main space in total: 145 m2 | ||
+ | * Storage space: ca 11m2 (but can be cancelled if we don't want the extra room anymore) | ||
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+ | ==== Costs ==== | ||
+ | * 1600,- main space inc electricity/water/etc | ||
+ | * 100,- for storage space | ||
+ | (no VAT is paid) | ||
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+ | ==== Location ==== | ||
+ | * Acta broedplaats | ||
+ | * Slotervaart, opposite the Slotervaart hospital | ||
+ | * Metro "Henk Sneevlietweg" | ||
+ | * Free parking | ||
+ | * Tram/bus | ||
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+ | ==== Extra ==== | ||
+ | * we won't have to move/redo infrastructure | ||
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=== New Option at WG === | === New Option at WG === | ||
==== Size ==== | ==== Size ==== | ||
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* Paid parking on the street: 3,00 per hour, from 09:00 till 24:00 | * Paid parking on the street: 3,00 per hour, from 09:00 till 24:00 | ||
* Close to appsterdam meetings | * Close to appsterdam meetings | ||
− | * | + | * 23min walking to [https://wiki.laglab.org/index.php?title=LAG LAG], 7min cycling |
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+ | ==== Building ==== | ||
+ | * Building is an old 19th century hospital, "het Wilheminia Gasthuis", it was the/an academic hospital from 1925 to 1983 | ||
+ | * It's a monument, resulting in some contraints for modifications on the -outside- of the building | ||
+ | * History: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/historie1.html (dutch) | ||
==== Area & Neighbours ==== | ==== Area & Neighbours ==== | ||
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* Dutch info page: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/huur.html | * Dutch info page: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/huur.html | ||
* Building maps (nr 54, 1st floor): http://ons.wg-terrein.nl/techo/wiki/23-huisnummering | * Building maps (nr 54, 1st floor): http://ons.wg-terrein.nl/techo/wiki/23-huisnummering | ||
+ | * The main room is fairly high, possible providing an option for building in an extra floor. | ||
==== Extra ==== | ==== Extra ==== | ||
* AOC rents out meeting rooms | * AOC rents out meeting rooms | ||
* WG rents out workshop rooms | * WG rents out workshop rooms | ||
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+ | ==== Travel ==== | ||
+ | Connecting trams are, 1, 3, 12 and 17 | ||
+ | ===== Travel times from major trainstations ===== | ||
+ | (source: 9292.nl & googlemaps) | ||
+ | * From Amsterdam central station: (Has trains from The Hague/Rotterdam/Haarlem/Den Helder/Maastricht/Utrecht) | ||
+ | ** Tram 1: 14 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Bike: 16 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Foot: 40 Minutes | ||
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+ | * From Amsterdam sloterdijk: (Mainly connections from The Hague/rotterdam/schiphol/zaandam/enkhuizen/leiden) | ||
+ | ** Tram 12: 18 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Bike: 21 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Foot: 54 Minutes | ||
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+ | * From Amsterdam lelylaan:(The Hague/rotterdam/schiphol/zaandam/enkhuizen) | ||
+ | ** Tram 1: 12 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Bike: 12 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Foot: 37 Minutes | ||
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+ | * From Amsterdam zuid:(Utrecht/groningen/schiphol/friesland) | ||
+ | ** Metro 50 + Tram 1: 24 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Bike: 17 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Foot: 40 Minutes | ||
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+ | * From Amsterdam amstel:(less, but from the south mainly) | ||
+ | ** Tram 12: 24 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Bike: 20 Minutes | ||
+ | ** Foot: 61 Minutes | ||
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+ | * From Muiderpoort | ||
+ | ** Tram: 28 min | ||
+ | ** Bike: 22 min | ||
+ | ** Foot: 1hr | ||
+ | ** Car: 13 min, no free parking | ||
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Latest revision as of 21:02, 19 December 2013
As we go we will edit this place and at cons/pros.
Contents
Current proposals
Acta
We can add the space of Lemon Cake (behind our beamer wall) to ours, this would be and extra 46 m2 for 500 euros a month.
Size
- Main space in total: 145 m2
- Storage space: ca 11m2 (but can be cancelled if we don't want the extra room anymore)
Costs
- 1600,- main space inc electricity/water/etc
- 100,- for storage space
(no VAT is paid)
Location
- Acta broedplaats
- Slotervaart, opposite the Slotervaart hospital
- Metro "Henk Sneevlietweg"
- Free parking
- Tram/bus
Extra
- we won't have to move/redo infrastructure
New Option at WG
Size
- Main space: ca 280m2
- Smaller space: ca 47m2
Costs
- 1600,- pure rent
- 1900,- inc electricity/water/etc
(no VAT is paid)
Location
- OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/601508329
- Oud-West, close to vondelpark and leidscheplein
- Connected by Trams, 3, 12, 1 & 17
- Paid parking garage from AOC, 2,20 per hour
- Paid parking on the street: 3,00 per hour, from 09:00 till 24:00
- Close to appsterdam meetings
- 23min walking to LAG, 7min cycling
Building
- Building is an old 19th century hospital, "het Wilheminia Gasthuis", it was the/an academic hospital from 1925 to 1983
- It's a monument, resulting in some contraints for modifications on the -outside- of the building
- History: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/historie1.html (dutch)
Area & Neighbours
- Largely residential area, with shops and some offices
- Within the block there is the AOC (Lot's of small offices/companies), Police Office, School, Mentrum, Doctors-office, Ski-school
- Walking distance:
- Tenkate Market
- 4 supermarkets(2x AH, Dirk, Lidl)
- Hardware/wood stores, restaurants, fastfood, general supply stores
- Vondelpark
- Leidscheplein (and lots of other bars even closer)
- Direct Neighbours (same complex)
- WG Cafe (Restaurant/Cafe)
- Screenprinting company
- Bookbinding comp
- Woodworkers
- Some small NGO's
- Art Gallery
- The Budapest
- Fietsersbond
- Chickens, Roosters, Hamsters
- Children Daycare center
- Livinggroups on higher floors
- Building is surrounded by gardens
Details
- 1st floor
- tackle for moving-in stuff (former usage was theatre)
- loading/unloading no problem, place is connected to a road with no parking.
- potential for shared ordering of drinks with budapest
- restaurant/bar in same building, frontdoor is shared, but each as own inner door aswell.
- no fibre options in 2013 (maybe 2014), but internet no problem
- shared electricy/water/etc costs
- the non-profit rent construction requires 6 of hours of work per month per renter on helping out with the renters-collective.
- Dutch info page: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/huur.html
- Building maps (nr 54, 1st floor): http://ons.wg-terrein.nl/techo/wiki/23-huisnummering
- The main room is fairly high, possible providing an option for building in an extra floor.
Extra
- AOC rents out meeting rooms
- WG rents out workshop rooms
Travel
Connecting trams are, 1, 3, 12 and 17
Travel times from major trainstations
(source: 9292.nl & googlemaps)
- From Amsterdam central station: (Has trains from The Hague/Rotterdam/Haarlem/Den Helder/Maastricht/Utrecht)
- Tram 1: 14 Minutes
- Bike: 16 Minutes
- Foot: 40 Minutes
- From Amsterdam sloterdijk: (Mainly connections from The Hague/rotterdam/schiphol/zaandam/enkhuizen/leiden)
- Tram 12: 18 Minutes
- Bike: 21 Minutes
- Foot: 54 Minutes
- From Amsterdam lelylaan:(The Hague/rotterdam/schiphol/zaandam/enkhuizen)
- Tram 1: 12 Minutes
- Bike: 12 Minutes
- Foot: 37 Minutes
- From Amsterdam zuid:(Utrecht/groningen/schiphol/friesland)
- Metro 50 + Tram 1: 24 Minutes
- Bike: 17 Minutes
- Foot: 40 Minutes
- From Amsterdam amstel:(less, but from the south mainly)
- Tram 12: 24 Minutes
- Bike: 20 Minutes
- Foot: 61 Minutes
- From Muiderpoort
- Tram: 28 min
- Bike: 22 min
- Foot: 1hr
- Car: 13 min, no free parking
See also - Alternative Space Committee - a group of members that will try to find an non-ACTA space.
Old proposals
Summer 2013
New ACTA space
200m2 at ACTA
- 1st floor
- able to shape it how we want
- no objection to having our own entrance
- scaled rent over months/years
- caveat being the termination of contract period being very long
- can choose from 225m2 or 200m2
costs
Aantal M2 186 Rent (incl service costs) € 1658,00 BTW 21% € 348.18 ___________ Totaal € 2006.18
See Space_Requirements/ACTA_2_proposal
files
File:Acta Hackers 20130612.pdf
File:Acta building floorplan.pdf
PNG of architect drawing
annotated PNG of architect drawing
The following picture is of the area marked in green above - its a mirror of the space we could occupy
and heres the outdoor entrance
2011-2012
- creativespaces.nl - email to ask for space in Vijzelstraat 68, Duintjes CS
- amran has emailed
- NDSM wherf? > NDSM has no space available in the > 100 M2 range, have asked them 12 June 2013 - AndreasR
- NIMK?
Nieuwe anita
The vesna had contact with the people behind the nieuwe anita, which isn't a really viable option since they prohibit newcomers to the space.
Wg-terrein
We had contact with the people from the wg-terrein, which doesnt seem a really good option since it doesn't want temporary organisations for a few months. For long term, none of the spaces are big enough.
Has cheap venue space though.
Joe's garage
Too small, no space of our own.
Mediamatic
They offered us a ~80m2 space at the Vijzelstraat 68, Duintjes CS, however there is no heating but has a room for storage and seperate room for hacking.
Mediamatic also invited us for the vangendthallen project, which are three big halls and various other places where they are looking into, we will keep in contact with them about this project. However, they mediamatic is slowly transferring to this new place, another point is that it doesn't have any infra like water, plumbing, or internet.
Justa is on it!
have this space until 01/11/12
Nimk
Location in progress and for our temporary hacknights.
(H)acta
Our "expected" place. - not ready until 2013 (summer). abandoning plans
Sauna Fenomeen/binnenpret
Too small, taken by LAG.
Zeeburgereiland
http://www.zeeburgereiland.nl/?page=news&id=10
DrWhax is on it
Temparchitecture
http://www.temparchitecture.com/
DrWhax is on it
Amsterdam EZ lady
Suggestion from gmc from revspace
DrWhax is on it
Ask Gemeente?
Ask webmind
Ask SteupPuntWonen?
Who has a contact with someone there?
http://www.steunpuntwonen.nl/contact