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=Location Proposals=
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As we go we will edit this place and at cons/pros.
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= Current proposals =
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=== Acta ===
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We can add the space of Lemon Cake (behind our beamer wall) to ours, this would be and extra 46 m2 for 500 euros a month.
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==== Size ====
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* Main space in total: 145 m2
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* Storage space: ca 11m2 (but can be cancelled if we don't want the extra room anymore)
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==== Costs ====
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* 1600,- main space inc electricity/water/etc
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* 100,- for storage space
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(no VAT is paid)
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==== Location ====
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* Acta broedplaats
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* Slotervaart, opposite the Slotervaart hospital
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* Metro "Henk Sneevlietweg"
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* Free parking
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* Tram/bus
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==== Extra ====
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* we won't have to move/redo infrastructure
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As we go we will edit this place and at cons/pros.
 
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== New proposals ==
 
 
=== New Option at WG ===
 
=== New Option at WG ===
 
==== Size ====
 
==== Size ====
 
* Main space: ca 280m2
 
* Main space: ca 280m2
 
* Smaller space: ca 47m2
 
* Smaller space: ca 47m2
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==== Costs ====
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* 1600,- pure rent
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* 1900,- inc electricity/water/etc
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(no VAT is paid)
  
 
==== Location ====
 
==== Location ====
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* Connected by Trams, 3, 12, 1 & 17  
 
* Connected by Trams, 3, 12, 1 & 17  
 
* Paid parking garage from AOC, 2,20 per hour
 
* Paid parking garage from AOC, 2,20 per hour
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* Paid parking on the street: 3,00 per hour, from 09:00 till 24:00
 
* Close to appsterdam meetings
 
* Close to appsterdam meetings
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* 20/30min walking to LAG
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* 23min walking to [https://wiki.laglab.org/index.php?title=LAG LAG], 7min cycling
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==== Building ====
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* Building is an old 19th century hospital, "het Wilheminia Gasthuis", it was the/an academic hospital from 1925 to 1983
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* It's a monument, resulting in some contraints for modifications on the -outside- of the building
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* History: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/historie1.html (dutch)
  
 
==== Area & Neighbours ====
 
==== Area & Neighbours ====
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* the non-profit rent construction requires 6 of hours of work per month per renter on helping out with the renters-collective.
 
* the non-profit rent construction requires 6 of hours of work per month per renter on helping out with the renters-collective.
 
* Dutch info page: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/huur.html
 
* Dutch info page: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/huur.html
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* Building maps (nr 54, 1st floor): http://ons.wg-terrein.nl/techo/wiki/23-huisnummering
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* The main room is fairly high, possible providing an option for building in an extra floor.
  
 
==== Extra ====
 
==== Extra ====
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* WG rents out workshop rooms
 
* WG rents out workshop rooms
  
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==== costs ====
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==== Travel ====
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* 1600,- pure rent
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Connecting trams are, 1, 3, 12 and 17
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* 1900,- inc electricity/water/etc
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===== Travel times from major trainstations =====
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(source: 9292.nl & googlemaps)
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* From Amsterdam central station: (Has trains from The Hague/Rotterdam/Haarlem/Den Helder/Maastricht/Utrecht)
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** Tram 1: 14 Minutes
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** Bike: 16 Minutes
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** Foot: 40 Minutes
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* From Amsterdam sloterdijk: (Mainly connections from The Hague/rotterdam/schiphol/zaandam/enkhuizen/leiden)
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** Tram 12: 18 Minutes
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** Bike: 21 Minutes
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** Foot: 54 Minutes
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* From Amsterdam lelylaan:(The Hague/rotterdam/schiphol/zaandam/enkhuizen)
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** Tram 1: 12 Minutes
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** Bike: 12 Minutes
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** Foot: 37 Minutes
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* From Amsterdam zuid:(Utrecht/groningen/schiphol/friesland)
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** Metro 50 + Tram 1: 24 Minutes
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** Bike: 17 Minutes
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** Foot: 40 Minutes
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* From Amsterdam amstel:(less, but from the south mainly)
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** Tram 12: 24 Minutes
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** Bike: 20 Minutes
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** Foot: 61 Minutes
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* From Muiderpoort
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** Tram: 28 min
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**  Bike: 22 min
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**  Foot: 1hr
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**  Car: 13 min, no free parking
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Prices inc VAT.
 
  
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=== Alternative Space Committee ===
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See also - [[Alternative Space Committee]] - a group of members that will try to find an non-ACTA space.
  
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[[Alternative Space Committee]] is the group of members that will try to find an non-ACTA space.
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= Old proposals =
  
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== Old proposals ==
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== Summer 2013 ==
 
=== New ACTA space ===
 
=== New ACTA space ===
 
200m2 at [[ACTA]]
 
200m2 at [[ACTA]]
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[[File:Outdoor_entrance.jpg|500px]]
 
[[File:Outdoor_entrance.jpg|500px]]
  
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== 2011-2012 ==
 
* creativespaces.nl - email to ask for space in Vijzelstraat 68, Duintjes CS
 
* creativespaces.nl - email to ask for space in Vijzelstraat 68, Duintjes CS
 
** amran has emailed
 
** amran has emailed

Latest revision as of 21:02, 19 December 2013

As we go we will edit this place and at cons/pros.

Current proposals

Acta

We can add the space of Lemon Cake (behind our beamer wall) to ours, this would be and extra 46 m2 for 500 euros a month.

Size

  • Main space in total: 145 m2
  • Storage space: ca 11m2 (but can be cancelled if we don't want the extra room anymore)

Costs

  • 1600,- main space inc electricity/water/etc
  • 100,- for storage space

(no VAT is paid)

Location

  • Acta broedplaats
  • Slotervaart, opposite the Slotervaart hospital
  • Metro "Henk Sneevlietweg"
  • Free parking
  • Tram/bus

Extra

  • we won't have to move/redo infrastructure


New Option at WG

Size

  • Main space: ca 280m2
  • Smaller space: ca 47m2

Costs

  • 1600,- pure rent
  • 1900,- inc electricity/water/etc

(no VAT is paid)

Location

  • OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/601508329
  • Oud-West, close to vondelpark and leidscheplein
  • Connected by Trams, 3, 12, 1 & 17
  • Paid parking garage from AOC, 2,20 per hour
  • Paid parking on the street: 3,00 per hour, from 09:00 till 24:00
  • Close to appsterdam meetings
  • 23min walking to LAG, 7min cycling

Building

  • Building is an old 19th century hospital, "het Wilheminia Gasthuis", it was the/an academic hospital from 1925 to 1983
  • It's a monument, resulting in some contraints for modifications on the -outside- of the building
  • History: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/historie1.html (dutch)

Area & Neighbours

  • Largely residential area, with shops and some offices
  • Within the block there is the AOC (Lot's of small offices/companies), Police Office, School, Mentrum, Doctors-office, Ski-school
  • Walking distance:
    • Tenkate Market
    • 4 supermarkets(2x AH, Dirk, Lidl)
    • Hardware/wood stores, restaurants, fastfood, general supply stores
    • Vondelpark
    • Leidscheplein (and lots of other bars even closer)
  • Direct Neighbours (same complex)
    • WG Cafe (Restaurant/Cafe)
    • Screenprinting company
    • Bookbinding comp
    • Woodworkers
    • Some small NGO's
    • Art Gallery
    • The Budapest
    • Fietsersbond
    • Chickens, Roosters, Hamsters
    • Children Daycare center
    • Livinggroups on higher floors
  • Building is surrounded by gardens

Details

  • 1st floor
  • tackle for moving-in stuff (former usage was theatre)
  • loading/unloading no problem, place is connected to a road with no parking.
  • potential for shared ordering of drinks with budapest
  • restaurant/bar in same building, frontdoor is shared, but each as own inner door aswell.
  • no fibre options in 2013 (maybe 2014), but internet no problem
  • shared electricy/water/etc costs
  • the non-profit rent construction requires 6 of hours of work per month per renter on helping out with the renters-collective.
  • Dutch info page: http://www.wg-terrein.nl/html/huur.html
  • Building maps (nr 54, 1st floor): http://ons.wg-terrein.nl/techo/wiki/23-huisnummering
  • The main room is fairly high, possible providing an option for building in an extra floor.

Extra

  • AOC rents out meeting rooms
  • WG rents out workshop rooms

Travel

Connecting trams are, 1, 3, 12 and 17

Travel times from major trainstations

(source: 9292.nl & googlemaps)

  • From Amsterdam central station: (Has trains from The Hague/Rotterdam/Haarlem/Den Helder/Maastricht/Utrecht)
    • Tram 1: 14 Minutes
    • Bike: 16 Minutes
    • Foot: 40 Minutes
  • From Amsterdam sloterdijk: (Mainly connections from The Hague/rotterdam/schiphol/zaandam/enkhuizen/leiden)
    • Tram 12: 18 Minutes
    • Bike: 21 Minutes
    • Foot: 54 Minutes
  • From Amsterdam lelylaan:(The Hague/rotterdam/schiphol/zaandam/enkhuizen)
    • Tram 1: 12 Minutes
    • Bike: 12 Minutes
    • Foot: 37 Minutes
  • From Amsterdam zuid:(Utrecht/groningen/schiphol/friesland)
    • Metro 50 + Tram 1: 24 Minutes
    • Bike: 17 Minutes
    • Foot: 40 Minutes
  • From Amsterdam amstel:(less, but from the south mainly)
    • Tram 12: 24 Minutes
    • Bike: 20 Minutes
    • Foot: 61 Minutes
  • From Muiderpoort
    • Tram: 28 min
    • Bike: 22 min
    • Foot: 1hr
    • Car: 13 min, no free parking


See also - Alternative Space Committee - a group of members that will try to find an non-ACTA space.

Old proposals

Summer 2013

New ACTA space

200m2 at ACTA

  • 1st floor
  • able to shape it how we want
  • no objection to having our own entrance
  • scaled rent over months/years
    • caveat being the termination of contract period being very long
  • can choose from 225m2 or 200m2

costs

  Aantal M2			186
  Rent (incl service costs)     €   1658,00
  BTW 21%			€    348.18
  				___________
  Totaal			€   2006.18

See Space_Requirements/ACTA_2_proposal

files

File:Acta Hackers 20130612.pdf
File:Acta building floorplan.pdf
PNG of architect drawing
PNG of architect drawing
annotated PNG of architect drawing
annotated PNG of architect drawing
The following picture is of the area marked in green above - its a mirror of the space we could occupy
Example view of new space.jpg
and heres the outdoor entrance
Outdoor entrance.jpg


2011-2012

  • creativespaces.nl - email to ask for space in Vijzelstraat 68, Duintjes CS
    • amran has emailed
  • NDSM wherf? > NDSM has no space available in the > 100 M2 range, have asked them 12 June 2013 - AndreasR
  • NIMK?

Nieuwe anita
The vesna had contact with the people behind the nieuwe anita, which isn't a really viable option since they prohibit newcomers to the space.

Wg-terrein
We had contact with the people from the wg-terrein, which doesnt seem a really good option since it doesn't want temporary organisations for a few months. For long term, none of the spaces are big enough. Has cheap venue space though.

Joe's garage
Too small, no space of our own.

Mediamatic
They offered us a ~80m2 space at the Vijzelstraat 68, Duintjes CS, however there is no heating but has a room for storage and seperate room for hacking.

Mediamatic also invited us for the vangendthallen project, which are three big halls and various other places where they are looking into, we will keep in contact with them about this project. However, they mediamatic is slowly transferring to this new place, another point is that it doesn't have any infra like water, plumbing, or internet.

Justa is on it!

have this space until 01/11/12

Nimk
Location in progress and for our temporary hacknights.

(H)acta
Our "expected" place. - not ready until 2013 (summer). abandoning plans

Sauna Fenomeen/binnenpret
Too small, taken by LAG.

Zeeburgereiland
http://www.zeeburgereiland.nl/?page=news&id=10
DrWhax is on it

Temparchitecture
http://www.temparchitecture.com/
DrWhax is on it

Amsterdam EZ lady
Suggestion from gmc from revspace
DrWhax is on it

Ask Gemeente?
Ask webmind

Ask SteupPuntWonen?
Who has a contact with someone there? http://www.steunpuntwonen.nl/contact

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