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==Myth, Belief, Vision, Culture==
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===Quoting Daniel Quinn==
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"... [It] is a battle in terms of how we understand humanity. Do we understand people as fundamentaly good or do we understand people as fundamentaly evil.
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if you believe that  most people are like you (most people do) and you are selfish and you want the people who are more like you to do better in the world then you assume that everyone else is is doing the same thing and all evil means is “oh, you are someone over there who is coming from a very different position than I am, you want different things that are mutually hostile.” Whereas if you believe that people are fundamentally altruistic and don’t want other groups to do better than they are, this is the same thing in some ways as saying people are fundamentally good then you don’t need to fight and undermine those people.
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"Encrypting all the things isn’t enough... If we start decentralizing all the things, that makes a real difference. it’s impossible to build a free internet that is centralized."
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we don’t get to be apolitical anymore.
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Because If you’re doing security work, if you’re doing development work and you are apolitical, then you are aiding the existing centralizing structure. If you’re doing security work and you are apolitical, you are almost certainly working for an organization that exists in a great part to prop up existing companies and existing power structures.
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we have culture wars going on. This isn’t about hacker in-group politics. The culture war is the big culture war: It is the fight for the narrative of what humans are: do you believe that people are fundamentally altruistic, or do you believe that we will stab each other in the back for a loaf of bread at a moment’s notice, and that if you are not kin and kind then, fuck you I’ll stick your head on a pike. If that’s the world you want to live in, you get to choose which of those is true. This isn’t just about what is true, but about what we want to be true.
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You get to build the world you want to live in.
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https://noisysquare.com/ethics-and-power-in-the-long-war-eleanor-saitta-dymaxion/
  
 
==We are the Vogons==
 
==We are the Vogons==

Revision as of 09:34, 26 October 2013

Projects
Participants Becha
Skills Community building
Status Planning
Niche Community
Purpose World domination

Why are hackers like tribes?

Why are hackerspaces like tribes?

"... Internet’s spirit of permissionless innovation, open entry, diversity and competition." http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/10/20/plans-for-internet-commission-on-internet-cooperation-revealed/

Why are tribes important?

Beyond Civilization

Myth, Belief, Vision, Culture

=Quoting Daniel Quinn

Quoting Claud Atlas

Quoting Einstain

Quoting Eleanor Saitta

"... [It] is a battle in terms of how we understand humanity. Do we understand people as fundamentaly good or do we understand people as fundamentaly evil. 

if you believe that  most people are like you (most people do) and you are selfish and you want the people who are more like you to do better in the world then you assume that everyone else is is doing the same thing and all evil means is “oh, you are someone over there who is coming from a very different position than I am, you want different things that are mutually hostile.” Whereas if you believe that people are fundamentally altruistic and don’t want other groups to do better than they are, this is the same thing in some ways as saying people are fundamentally good then you don’t need to fight and undermine those people.

"Encrypting all the things isn’t enough... If we start decentralizing all the things, that makes a real difference. it’s impossible to build a free internet that is centralized."

we don’t get to be apolitical anymore.

Because If you’re doing security work, if you’re doing development work and you are apolitical, then you are aiding the existing centralizing structure. If you’re doing security work and you are apolitical, you are almost certainly working for an organization that exists in a great part to prop up existing companies and existing power structures.

we have culture wars going on. This isn’t about hacker in-group politics. The culture war is the big culture war: It is the fight for the narrative of what humans are: do you believe that people are fundamentally altruistic, or do you believe that we will stab each other in the back for a loaf of bread at a moment’s notice, and that if you are not kin and kind then, fuck you I’ll stick your head on a pike. If that’s the world you want to live in, you get to choose which of those is true. This isn’t just about what is true, but about what we want to be true.

You get to build the world you want to live in.

https://noisysquare.com/ethics-and-power-in-the-long-war-eleanor-saitta-dymaxion/

We are the Vogons

Art

(and unrelated, but worth it: http://stevecutts.com )

  • Pearl Jam: Yield , album inspired by Ishamel (Daniel Quinn)
  • Michael Pollan's Food Rules vimeo.comBased on Michael Pollan's talk "Food Rules" given at the RSA, this animation was created in the context of the RSA/Nominet Trust film competition. Using a mixture…

http://vimeo.com/35444471

Links

Limits to Growth

  • and transcript

http://www.albartlett.org/presentations/arithmetic_population_energy_transcript_english.html

  • quote: 
       "You cannot sustain population growth and / or growth in the                  
       rates of consumption of resources."
  • quote 
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is                                                            
our inability to understand the exponential function."
  • "There is no tomorrow", animation

http://www.popularresistance.org/video-can-this-current-way-of-life-continue/

Climate

Near Term Extinction


Misc

Partial Solutions

Russel Brand


IPCC 5th report

  • 27 sept 2013 the 5th IPCC report got published, and results from their year study are summarized :

http://www.ipcc.ch/news_and_events/docs/ar5/ar5_wg1_headlines.pdf http://www.tyndall.ac.uk/communication/news-archive/2013/ipcc-report-released-today-stockholm http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21929360.200-climate-science-why-the-world-wont-listen.html#.UkVjjKw4_T0 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/sep/27/ipcc-climate-change-report-ar5-live-coverage http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24292615

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