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you can find text for a [[Pitch_for_space|pitch for a new space here]]
 
you can find text for a [[Pitch_for_space|pitch for a new space here]]
  
=Location Proposals=
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See [[Location Proposals]] for suggested spaces past and present.
 
 
As we go we will edit this place and at cons/pros.
 
== New proposals ==
 
=== New Option at WG ===
 
Main space: ca 280m2
 
Spaller space: ca 47m2
 
Location: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/601508329
 
 
 
*1st floor
 
*tackle for moving-in stuff (former usage was theatre)
 
*central location (oud-west, close to vondelpark & leidscheplein)
 
*lots of shops in area (hardware, electronics, computers, foods, fastfoods)
 
*paid parking, but parking garage nearby
 
*loading/unloading no problem, place is connected to a road with no parking.
 
*potential for shared ordering of drinks with budapest
 
*restaurant/bar in same building
 
*near-by appsterdam meetings
 
*no fibre options in 2013 (maybe 2014), but internet no problem
 
*shared electricy/water/etc costs
 
*the non-profit rent construction requires a couple of hours of work per month on helping out with the renters-collective.
 
 
 
==== costs ====
 
upcoming
 
 
 
 
 
=== New ACTA space ===
 
200m2 at [[ACTA]]
 
 
 
*1st floor
 
*able to shape it how we want
 
*no objection to having our own entrance
 
*scaled rent over months/years
 
**caveat being the termination of contract period being very long
 
*can choose from 225m2 or 200m2
 
 
 
==== costs ====
 
  Aantal M2 186
 
  Rent (incl service costs)    €  1658,00
 
  BTW 21% €    348.18
 
  ___________
 
  Totaal €  2006.18
 
 
 
See [[Space_Requirements/ACTA_2_proposal]]
 
 
 
==== files ====
 
[[File:Acta_Hackers_20130612.pdf|PDF of architect drawing]]<br>
 
[[File:Acta_building_floorplan.pdf|PDF of ACTA building floorplan]]
 
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PNG of architect drawing<br>
 
[[File:Proposed_space_full.png|PNG of architect drawing|500px]]
 
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annotated PNG of architect drawing<br>
 
[[File:Proposed_space_full_annotated.png|annotated PNG of architect drawing|500px]]
 
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The following picture is of the area marked in green above - its a mirror of the space we could occupy<br>
 
[[File:Example_view_of_new_space.jpg|500px]]
 
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and heres the outdoor entrance<br>
 
[[File:Outdoor_entrance.jpg|500px]]
 
 
 
=== Alternative Space Committee ===
 
 
 
[[Alternative Space Committee]] is the group of members that will try to find an non-ACTA space.
 
 
 
== Old proposals ==
 
 
 
* creativespaces.nl - email to ask for space in Vijzelstraat 68, Duintjes CS
 
** amran has emailed
 
* NDSM wherf? > NDSM has no space available in the > 100 M2 range, have asked them 12 June 2013 - AndreasR
 
* NIMK?
 
 
 
'''Nieuwe anita'''<br>
 
The vesna had contact with the people behind the nieuwe anita, which isn't a really viable option since they prohibit newcomers to the space.
 
 
 
'''Wg-terrein'''<br>
 
We had contact with the people from the wg-terrein, which doesnt seem a really good option since it doesn't want temporary organisations for a few months. For long term, none of the spaces are big enough.
 
Has cheap venue space though.
 
 
 
'''Joe's garage'''<br>
 
Too small, no space of our own.
 
 
 
'''Mediamatic'''<br>
 
They offered us a ~80m2 space at the Vijzelstraat 68, Duintjes CS, however there is no heating but has a room for storage and seperate room for hacking.
 
 
 
Mediamatic also invited us for the vangendthallen project, which are three big halls and various other places where they are looking into, we will keep in contact with them about this project. However, they mediamatic is slowly transferring to this new place, another point is that it doesn't  have any infra like water, plumbing, or internet.
 
 
 
Justa is on it!
 
 
 
have this space until 01/11/12
 
 
 
'''Nimk'''<br>
 
Location in progress and for our temporary hacknights.
 
 
 
'''(H)acta'''<br>
 
Our "expected" place. - not ready until 2013 (summer). abandoning plans
 
 
 
'''Sauna Fenomeen/binnenpret'''<br>
 
Too small, taken by LAG.
 
 
 
'''Zeeburgereiland'''<br>
 
http://www.zeeburgereiland.nl/?page=news&id=10 <br>
 
DrWhax is on it
 
 
 
'''Temparchitecture'''<br>
 
http://www.temparchitecture.com/ <br>
 
DrWhax is on it
 
 
 
'''Amsterdam EZ lady'''<br>
 
Suggestion from gmc from revspace <br>
 
DrWhax is on it
 
 
 
'''Ask Gemeente?'''<br>
 
Ask webmind
 
 
 
'''Ask SteupPuntWonen?'''<br>
 
Who has a contact with someone there?
 
http://www.steunpuntwonen.nl/contact
 

Revision as of 11:52, 6 November 2013

We need a new space. this is a page that outlines our requirements and has location proposals

Requirements

  • Around 200m2
  • Permanent heating
  • Price: Double our current rent ~2200 EUR
  • Quiet room/Classroom (20-30m2)
  • Dirty room (20-30m2)
  • Clean room (10-20m2
  • Toilets
  • Drainage

Preferred:

  • Little or no internal finishings (e.g. hardwood floorings or carpets) we can mess up
  • Multiple rooms

Questions / points of interest

  • Is it ok with our access policy? (24/7 for all members, with custom security)
  • Use of the space for light industrial purposes.
  • Can we remove carpets/flooring if they are present?
  • Can we add partitions if we need them?
  • What state they would expect the space to be left in at the end of the contract.
  • Is cold and/or hot water plumbing available in the space?
  • Can a kitchen/sink be added if plumbing is available?
  • What is the existing electrical infrastructure (number/location of outlets, number/capacity of breakers/electrical groups)?
  • Can we modify the electrical infrastructure?
  • What lighting is available in each room? Can we modify the lighting?
  • Can we hang/mount things on the walls?
  • Are there means for us to add ventilation to the outside for tools like the laser cutter?
  • What toilet facilities are available?
  • What is the minimum length of lease and how much in advance must we give notice to terminate?
  • How does rubbish disposal work?
  • If the rental space consists of more than one room, are the rooms separated by existing doors?
  • about 10 people every day that will be there; mostly in evening hours
  • when is it available, and for how long?
  • what equipment / furniture is there (desks, chairs)?
  • is there Internet connectivity?
  • is there a kitchen, for making tea/coffee?
  • is the proposed space reachable easily via public transportation?
  • is parking available? Free or paid parking?
  • are there supermarkets/bars/restaurants/interesting stores in the vicinity of the proposed space?
  • Are there external windows in the space? Can they be opened?

you can find text for a pitch for a new space here

See Location Proposals for suggested spaces past and present.