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<big>'''Tactical Media Room notes 13 March'''</big>
  
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=== What are we? ===
  
We get request of ppl can became a member from russia, ukraina - if they can contribute - they want to join the meeting
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* We are learning what we are together, by doing it. We can use the public program to helps us to define what we are learning together as we go it is about what are learning
we have never discussed the membership
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* If something is already happening, we support what is already happening
ppl think we are a movement, a group.
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* everybody can invite other, what makes this group grow in a slower manner.
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* We should be explicit we don't intend to be a love peace group that brings Ukraine, Belarusian and Russian together, we just decided not to limit the scope to Ukraine.
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* It is a Dutch initiative event but we invite people from everywhere. In the future we can connect with other events elsewhere.
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* it is a support platform
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* we are not telling ppl what to do
  
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[[https://wiki.techinc.nl/TacticalMediaRoom/Signal#Events|we made a text about what we are and shared with you. If you have something to add / change. Tomorrow we will use it to go public use the text as much as you can we mention most of the organisation, but you can add your.]]
  
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''we mention most of the organisation, but you can add yours or delete if you don't want that''
  
  
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==== How can ppl contribute? ====
building an university, we have now mentorship
 
we have about 60 ppl pared
 
mentor project is already happening, we have resource list that ppl use to find places to work and practical information
 
includes russian and belarussians
 
university is more long term - we have contact with the minister in Riga.  not in amsterdam.
 
uva is involved,
 
  
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It is a challenge , but also an opportunity.  If it is too dangerous (being public) we need a form to facilitate the security:
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* not allowed to make a live recording
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* no photos
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* Someone should write a good report about the meeting, like a blog post
  
pls share the links
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Maybe we should have events that are online and not online.
  
-- waag
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==== Who can join the signal group? ====
working on more structure for this.
 
we
 
stichting doen, and asked if they could support the activities. / not this group, but the initiatives in this group
 
  
talking about the digital infra
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We get request of ppl can become a member from Russia, Ukraine - if they can contribute - they want to join the meeting <br>
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Members of this group can invite others, what makes this group grow organically, in a slower manner.
  
we need to be more clear of what we need
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=== The public events ===
do we need more support, the city of adam may support a lot
 
  
caspar
 
put toghether a low key public event
 
kalensky is already organising disinformation
 
had a conversation about understandign and how to counter this
 
next wendsday? it is nice to just start
 
we try to have 3 guest and 3 perceptions
 
Iwill come with a text about our main thoughts in the program
 
we need to reach out to our audience
 
how we are going to get public?
 
if we have a text by tomorrow we can start to invite ppl
 
20:00 to 22:00
 
presentations and handson work
 
ask ppl to bring their own laptop.
 
idea is to do on the first floor
 
  
we have this meeting to connect and we will have soup  - the mirror kitchen
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We can use the public program to help us to define what we are learning together as we go. It is about what are learning
we will have also a presentation
 
 
 
we will start to explain ppl who we are
 
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about kalenski he can als link us with other ppl that research disinformation across europe.
 
 
 
 
 
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2 big topics
 
 
 
1- what are we?
 
2- the public events
 
 
 
if something is already happening we support what is aready happening\
 
 
 
we made a text about what we are and shared with you.
 
if you have something to add / change.
 
tomorrow we will use it to go public
 
use the text as much as you can
 
we mention most of the organisation, but you can add your.
 
 
 
we define what this group and everybody can invite other, what makes this group grow in a slower manner.
 
there is the signal group,
 
 
 
second part
 
we can use the public program to  
 
helps us to define what we are learning toghether as we go
 
it is about what are learning
 
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we should be explicit we dont want to be a love peace group that bring uk, belarussian and russian toghether
 
the fact that we decided not to limit the scope to ukraine,
 
 
 
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the question is how can ppl contribute?
 
it is a challenge , but also an opportunity
 
if it is too dangerous, maybe if in a public is dangerous.
 
i am looking for a form to facilitate the security
 
not allowed to make a live recording
 
maybe events that are online and not online
 
it would be good if someone write a good report about it ,like a blog post - this for the public events
 
another event would be only online events
 
 
 
make clear it is a Dutch initiative event / it is a support platform / we are not telling ppl what to do
 
 
 
 
 
everywhere things are happening maybe at some point we can connect
 
it is a dutch group
 
 
 
we can get people from everywhere
 
 
 
 
 
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we did small research about the polish opinion on the war on ukraina
 
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==  Requests ==
 
==  Requests ==
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==  Offers ==
 
==  Offers ==
  
Mark (?) is writing for a grant about the evolution of extremism and is collecting letters of organisations against extremism. Maybe some of these organisations can be of interest for this group. <br>
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Marc (?) is writing for a grant about the evolution of extremism and is collecting letters of organisations against extremism. Maybe some of these organisations can be of interest for this group. <br>
  
 
we did small research about the polish opinion on the war on ukraina<br>
 
we did small research about the polish opinion on the war on ukraina<br>
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We need to be more clear of what we need, If we do need more support, the city of Adam may support a lot. <br>
 
We need to be more clear of what we need, If we do need more support, the city of Adam may support a lot. <br>
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(...) We are building an University. We have now a mentorship where at the moment 60 people are pared. This mentor project is already happening and we have a resource list that people use to find work and practical information. This includes Ukraine, Russian and Belarusians. The university is more in a long term, we have already contact with Ministries in Riga. The university will not be in Amsterdam. UVA is involved.
  
 
==  Events ==
 
==  Events ==
  
Low-key public event. Speaking with Kalensky as he is already organising disinformation researches and about understanding and how to counter this. We try to have 3 guest and 3 perceptions
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Low-key public event. Speaking with Kalensky as he is already organising disinformation researches and about understanding and how to counter this. We try to have 3 guest and 3 perceptions<br>
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Text will be a brief introduction, we don't need to have all the names of the presentors yet.
  
 
Wendsday 20th <br>
 
Wendsday 20th <br>
  
 
# The meeting with this group start at 18:00  
 
# The meeting with this group start at 18:00  
# We will have some soup,  
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# We will have some soup, the mirror kitchen
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# We will start to explain ppl who we are
 
# Presentation  
 
# Presentation  
# Works on groups
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# Works on groups (ask ppl to bring their own laptop.)
  
  
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All members of the group should start inviting people. The press release can go out tomorrow (made by M+G)  
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All members of the group should start inviting people. The press release can go out tomorrow (made by M+G)
Text will be a brief introduction, we don't need to have all the names of the presentors yet.
 
 
 
==  Jobs ==
 

Latest revision as of 20:15, 20 April 2022

Tactical Media Room notes 13 March

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Discussed

What are we?

  • We are learning what we are together, by doing it. We can use the public program to helps us to define what we are learning together as we go it is about what are learning
  • If something is already happening, we support what is already happening
  • everybody can invite other, what makes this group grow in a slower manner.
  • We should be explicit we don't intend to be a love peace group that brings Ukraine, Belarusian and Russian together, we just decided not to limit the scope to Ukraine.
  • It is a Dutch initiative event but we invite people from everywhere. In the future we can connect with other events elsewhere.
  • it is a support platform
  • we are not telling ppl what to do

[made a text about what we are and shared with you. If you have something to add / change. Tomorrow we will use it to go public use the text as much as you can we mention most of the organisation, but you can add your.]

we mention most of the organisation, but you can add yours or delete if you don't want that


How can ppl contribute?

It is a challenge , but also an opportunity. If it is too dangerous (being public) we need a form to facilitate the security:

  • not allowed to make a live recording
  • no photos
  • Someone should write a good report about the meeting, like a blog post

Maybe we should have events that are online and not online.

Who can join the signal group?

We get request of ppl can become a member from Russia, Ukraine - if they can contribute - they want to join the meeting
Members of this group can invite others, what makes this group grow organically, in a slower manner.

The public events

We can use the public program to help us to define what we are learning together as we go. It is about what are learning

Requests

We expect in 2 years the Russian firewall to become more impenetrable. We are still looking for a coordinator with technical expertise + creativity to make sure people in Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, etc, can access information. This should be an institutionalized and continuous support.

Kris is increasingly getting requests from journalists from Russia asking for help to come here.

Would like to invite Russian philosophers and journalist and would like to discuss whom to expect in the event as speaker and as public

Also, need to discuss what channels, how we co-work.

Website inzamelplekken.nl -> we are looking for volunteers. Also making a job description for an intern, but don't have a budget yet.

We have a project on data - public and social media and how media is evidence on the court. We need to hire a researcher from Ukraine and make this bigger, more substantial. There is not funding yet.

We sent an email for people asking if they want to work in the workshop about security (?)

Offers

Marc (?) is writing for a grant about the evolution of extremism and is collecting letters of organisations against extremism. Maybe some of these organisations can be of interest for this group.

we did small research about the polish opinion on the war on ukraina

Kalenski can link us with other researchers of disinformation across Europe.

M is speaking with Stichting Doen, and asked if they could support the activities, not for this group, but for the initiatives in this group.

We need to be more clear of what we need, If we do need more support, the city of Adam may support a lot.

(...) We are building an University. We have now a mentorship where at the moment 60 people are pared. This mentor project is already happening and we have a resource list that people use to find work and practical information. This includes Ukraine, Russian and Belarusians. The university is more in a long term, we have already contact with Ministries in Riga. The university will not be in Amsterdam. UVA is involved.

Events

Low-key public event. Speaking with Kalensky as he is already organising disinformation researches and about understanding and how to counter this. We try to have 3 guest and 3 perceptions
Text will be a brief introduction, we don't need to have all the names of the presentors yet.

Wendsday 20th

  1. The meeting with this group start at 18:00
  2. We will have some soup, the mirror kitchen
  3. We will start to explain ppl who we are
  4. Presentation
  5. Works on groups (ask ppl to bring their own laptop.)


program

  • what is misinformation
  • what is that in the daily life
  • how to connect with ppl in dangerous environments


All members of the group should start inviting people. The press release can go out tomorrow (made by M+G)