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https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/LikaCamp2018 | |||
'''DATES: 30. July - 10. August 2018.''' | |||
People who confirmed: Vesna, Arnd, Alisa (15), Charlie (12); Nana, Iris (11), Lara (9); Patrice; ... | |||
Dropping-by: Brane, Rajko, Kruno... | |||
Maybe: Keith, Shailoh, Nikolina & family, Desiree, | |||
Canceled: Evelien & Sicco, Joost & family, | |||
'''LOCATION:''' Gubavcevo Polje, near Gracac, in Lika, Croatia ([https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=44.34056&mlon=15.93629#map=10/44.3406/15.9363 on OpenStreetMap] ) | |||
Contact: Vesna: +31 6 21 25 81 91 | |||
=Lika Links= | |||
[[User:Becha/Lika]] | [[User:Becha/Lika]] | ||
[[User:Becha/Lika/Lodge]] | [[User:Becha/Lika/Lodge]] (manual) | ||
[[User:Becha/Lika2017]] | |||
[[LikaCamp2016]] & the report https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/File:Pdf-about_LikaCamp2016-story_in_pictures.pdf | |||
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=NEWS= | |||
* AUGUST | |||
** we were there all together 30.7. - 6.8. | |||
** [https://becha.home.xs4all.nl/bogdan/ SHOCKINGLY AND UNEXPECTEDLY, BOGDAN DIED ON 5th August :(((((] | |||
* June: travel plans: | |||
** Mileva & Bogdan arrive 27th July?? | |||
** Arnd arrives 29th July | |||
** Vesna & Kids arrive 30th July (before that: Camping Stoja 21.-30.7. near Pula) | |||
** Nana & kids arrive 3st August, or 30th July | |||
* May: | |||
** Nikolina went to visit; house is OK, PUH is still living there happily :) (see photos :) ) | |||
** continued with planning... | |||
* March: Dates decided: 29.7. - 10.8. | |||
* February 2018: | |||
** https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/likacamp2018/ | |||
** https://mail.likacamp.org/mailman/listinfo/2018 | |||
=Planning= | =Planning= | ||
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Vesna: November 2017: I am looking for a core group of people who want to take a responsibility to make LikaCamp2018 happen: 5-7 people for the 20-30 participants in total. | Vesna: November 2017: I am looking for a core group of people who want to take a responsibility to make LikaCamp2018 happen: 5-7 people for the 20-30 participants in total. | ||
My initial | My initial goals include: | ||
* kids, camping, sharing the meals; | * bringing kids, camping, sharing the meals, sharing the expenses fairly; sharing the responsibilities '''in advance''' ; | ||
** | ** nice to have: climbing, swimming, collecting medicinal herbs, | ||
* what I do NOT want is: big projects, Internet, to hire a cook ; to have "open invite" | * what I do NOT want is: big projects, Internet, to hire a cook ; to have an "open invite" ; to charge money in order to pay some people; | ||
* possible times: MeiVakantie (2018-04-27 to 2018-05-13) or 2 weeks in the summer (between 21.7. & 1.9.) | |||
Vesna: January 2018: Waiting till mid-February, after FOSDEM, to initiate the group-discussion about the plans. | |||
February 2018: there is interest; we moved on to choose the date & And made a mailing list | |||
Plan for mid-March: | |||
* review the poll results | |||
* meet in person, in Amsterdam | |||
* have a video/phone call with people not in amsterdam | |||
* share the announcement with the rest of UnCiv list (althou the like & the intention was posted in January..) | |||
==An area of responsibility== | ==An area of responsibility== | ||
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==Possible tasks per area of responsibility== | ==Possible tasks per area of responsibility== | ||
* Coordinate people in advance | * '''Coordinate people in advance''' | ||
** coordinate deciding the best date | ** coordinate deciding the best date | ||
** find out who is coming | ** find out who is coming | ||
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** organise the "core group" to make agreements & decisions & SHARED GOALS & commitments | ** organise the "core group" to make agreements & decisions & SHARED GOALS & commitments | ||
* Finances coordination | * '''Finances''' coordination | ||
** Make a budget | ** Make a budget | ||
** Collect money ; distribute money to other teams | ** Collect money ; distribute money to other teams | ||
** Make a report after | ** Make a report after | ||
* Cooking coordination | * '''Cooking''' coordination | ||
** Make a plan of meals & list os supplies needed & storage | ** Make a plan of meals & list os supplies needed & storage | ||
** Coordinate cooking crews every day | ** Coordinate cooking crews every day | ||
** Coordinate cleaning of the dishes | ** Coordinate cleaning of the dishes | ||
** Be a "team leader" for the daily cooking teams | |||
* Cleaning coordination | * '''Cleaning''' coordination | ||
** Be a "team leader" for the daily cleaning teams | |||
** Clothes: Collect & put to wash, Hang to dry, Collect & fold | ** Clothes: Collect & put to wash, Hang to dry, Collect & fold | ||
** Rubbish : organise collection, make sure it's brought away | ** Rubbish : organise collection, make sure it's brought away | ||
** Coordinate cleaning of Floors & bathroom & the camping area | ** Coordinate cleaning of Floors & bathroom & the camping area | ||
* Driving & shopping | * '''Driving''' & shopping + coordination | ||
** Be a "team leader" for the "drivers" team | |||
** Drive to the station (pick up / bring people), to the city & back | ** Drive to the station (pick up / bring people), to the city & back | ||
** Drive to shop; Help shop ; unpack | ** Drive to shop; Help shop ; unpack | ||
** Drive to the attractions | ** Drive to the attractions | ||
* | * Be a contact with '''locals''' | ||
** Translate to/from Serbian/Croatian & English, Dutch | ** Translate to/from Serbian/Croatian & English, Dutch | ||
** Talk to locals: neighbours, authorities, family | ** Talk to locals: neighbours, authorities, family | ||
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** OPTIONAL: contact with people in "the other house": Vesna's or Nikolina's parents | ** OPTIONAL: contact with people in "the other house": Vesna's or Nikolina's parents | ||
* | * '''Activities & Time Coordinator''' : coordinate daily activities & schedule | ||
** Collect ideas about outings, workshops, performances... | ** Collect ideas about outings, workshops, performances... | ||
** Make weekly & daily plans | |||
** Check with other teams about their needs for volunteers | ** Check with other teams about their needs for volunteers | ||
** Help team-leaders to find volunteers for the activities of their teams | |||
** Make a proposal for the daily schedule, include meals, workshops, cleaning, shopping... | ** Make a proposal for the daily schedule, include meals, workshops, cleaning, shopping... | ||
** Keep everyone informed about the plans for that day & the next | ** Keep everyone informed about the plans for that day & the next | ||
** Remind people about their tasks | |||
** Keep track of times & teach people how to adjust their planning | |||
* Documentation | * '''Documentation''' | ||
** making a web page in advance - as a manual or a guide or instructions | ** making a web page in advance - as a manual or a guide or instructions | ||
** taking photos during | ** taking photos during | ||
** asking people for their input, impressions, experiences... photos... | ** asking people for their input, impressions, experiences... photos... | ||
** writing a report after : collect photos, tweets, blog posts... | ** writing a report after : collect photos, tweets, blog posts... | ||
** OPTIONAL: making a movie :) | |||
* Maintenance | * '''Maintenance''' | ||
** small repairs | ** small repairs | ||
** making things we need: furniture, outside-structures | ** making things we need: furniture, outside-structures | ||
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* Conflict resolution & group dynamics | * '''Conflict resolution''' & group dynamics | ||
** facilitating of the consensus-making process for groups | ** facilitating of the consensus-making process for groups | ||
** keeping up the group spirit: reminding people to share; reminding what our goals were | ** moderate group discussions | ||
** keeping up the group spirit: reminding people to share; reminding what our goals were ; and of CoC | |||
** being a "trusted point of contact" / "confidante" | ** being a "trusted point of contact" / "confidante" | ||
** mediaton between 2 people with a problem / conflict | ** mediaton between 2 people with a problem / conflict | ||
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* Everyone: | * '''Everyone''': | ||
** ENJOYING & HAVING FUN | ** ENJOYING & HAVING FUN | ||
** Parenting | ** Taking care of themselves | ||
** Volunteering | ** Parenting = taking care of their own, & other people's kids | ||
** Giving workshops | ** Volunteering to do cleaning & cooking | ||
** | ** Giving workshops (optional!) | ||
** Communicating :) | |||
==People Interested== | ==People Interested== | ||
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* Webmind | * Webmind | ||
* Leslie & her family | * Leslie & her family | ||
* natacha | * natacha & hellekin | ||
* Suncica, Oliver, Tara | * Suncica, Oliver, Tara | ||
* Zoki | * Zoki | ||
* Podinski | * Podinski | ||
* Nana | * Nana | ||
* Joost & his family | * Joost & his family | ||
* Pepi? Des? Shane? Holger? Acracia? Nienke? Bjorn (tux) ? Leli? Evelien & Sicco? | |||
* Marta & her family | |||
=Planning stage= | |||
==Pricing Considerations== | |||
=== Transportation costs === | |||
Given the fact that the LikaCamp site isnt very close to civilization (yay!), transportation by car/taxi/horse is the most convenient manner to get anyone/anything there or back out again. Walking from the nearest bus/train location is technically feasible but involves about 12-14km through semi-rough terrain (dont expect to take a wheeled suitcase). | |||
Using a bike is possible too but would require some logistics first as there are no bikes on the premises normally. | |||
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;" | |||
! Destination | |||
! Description | |||
! Reason | |||
! Distance | |||
! Duration | |||
! Cost | |||
|- | |||
|Gracac | |||
|Closest town | |||
|Supermarket,tools,supplies,train,bus | |||
|14km (28KM) | |||
|24min (48min) | |||
|Eur2.66 (Eur5.32) | |||
|- | |||
|Gospic | |||
|Large town | |||
|Rare goods,train,bus | |||
|63km (126km) | |||
|1h4min (2h8min) | |||
|Eur11.97 (Eur23.94) | |||
|} | |||
=== Food costs/prognosis === | |||
==Other events 2018== | |||
* TBD: 6-7-8. July, ADM, Amsterdam https://tbd.camp | |||
* KasKantine | |||
* Transhackmeeting in Tarnac (.fr) August 9-12, 2018 http://trans.hackmeeting.org/ | |||
* Code Rood, Groningen: 24-31.8. https://code-rood.org/index.php/nl/actie-coderood-voor-groningen/ | |||
* Queer-feminist visit from Germany to Amsterdam: 14-23.9. https://naturfreundejugend-berlin.de/termine/niederlande | |||
* WildPlukken | |||
* /etc (eclectic tech carnival) 8-13 October in Bologna |
Latest revision as of 16:38, 25 June 2021



https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/LikaCamp2018
DATES: 30. July - 10. August 2018.
People who confirmed: Vesna, Arnd, Alisa (15), Charlie (12); Nana, Iris (11), Lara (9); Patrice; ...
Dropping-by: Brane, Rajko, Kruno...
Maybe: Keith, Shailoh, Nikolina & family, Desiree,
Canceled: Evelien & Sicco, Joost & family,
LOCATION: Gubavcevo Polje, near Gracac, in Lika, Croatia (on OpenStreetMap )
Contact: Vesna: +31 6 21 25 81 91
Lika Links
User:Becha/Lika/Lodge (manual)
LikaCamp2016 & the report https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/File:Pdf-about_LikaCamp2016-story_in_pictures.pdf

NEWS
- AUGUST
- we were there all together 30.7. - 6.8.
- SHOCKINGLY AND UNEXPECTEDLY, BOGDAN DIED ON 5th August :(((((
- June: travel plans:
- Mileva & Bogdan arrive 27th July??
- Arnd arrives 29th July
- Vesna & Kids arrive 30th July (before that: Camping Stoja 21.-30.7. near Pula)
- Nana & kids arrive 3st August, or 30th July
- May:
- Nikolina went to visit; house is OK, PUH is still living there happily :) (see photos :) )
- continued with planning...
- March: Dates decided: 29.7. - 10.8.
- February 2018:
Planning
Vesna: November 2017: I am looking for a core group of people who want to take a responsibility to make LikaCamp2018 happen: 5-7 people for the 20-30 participants in total.
My initial goals include:
- bringing kids, camping, sharing the meals, sharing the expenses fairly; sharing the responsibilities in advance ;
- nice to have: climbing, swimming, collecting medicinal herbs,
- what I do NOT want is: big projects, Internet, to hire a cook ; to have an "open invite" ; to charge money in order to pay some people;
- possible times: MeiVakantie (2018-04-27 to 2018-05-13) or 2 weeks in the summer (between 21.7. & 1.9.)
Vesna: January 2018: Waiting till mid-February, after FOSDEM, to initiate the group-discussion about the plans.
February 2018: there is interest; we moved on to choose the date & And made a mailing list
Plan for mid-March:
- review the poll results
- meet in person, in Amsterdam
- have a video/phone call with people not in amsterdam
- share the announcement with the rest of UnCiv list (althou the like & the intention was posted in January..)
An area of responsibility
Who / | Coordinate people in advance | Parenting | Volunteering | Give workshops | Driving & shopping | Local contacts | Documentation | Maintainance | Finances coordination | Coordinate daily activities & schedule | Cooking coordination | Cleaning coordination | (extra column?) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Arnd | + | + | + | + | + (photos) | + | |||||||
Kai | + | + | ? | + | |||||||||
Vesna | + | + | + | + | (not!) | + | + | + | |||||
Joost | |||||||||||||
Who / | Coordinate people in advance | Parenting | Volunteering | Give workshops | Driving & shopping | Local contacts | Documentation | Maintainance | Finances coordination | Coordinate daily activities & schedule | Cooking coordination | Cleaning coordination | (extra column?) |
Possible tasks per area of responsibility
- Coordinate people in advance
- coordinate deciding the best date
- find out who is coming
- decide a deadline for joining
- organise the "core group" to make agreements & decisions & SHARED GOALS & commitments
- Finances coordination
- Make a budget
- Collect money ; distribute money to other teams
- Make a report after
- Cooking coordination
- Make a plan of meals & list os supplies needed & storage
- Coordinate cooking crews every day
- Coordinate cleaning of the dishes
- Be a "team leader" for the daily cooking teams
- Cleaning coordination
- Be a "team leader" for the daily cleaning teams
- Clothes: Collect & put to wash, Hang to dry, Collect & fold
- Rubbish : organise collection, make sure it's brought away
- Coordinate cleaning of Floors & bathroom & the camping area
- Driving & shopping + coordination
- Be a "team leader" for the "drivers" team
- Drive to the station (pick up / bring people), to the city & back
- Drive to shop; Help shop ; unpack
- Drive to the attractions
- Be a contact with locals
- Translate to/from Serbian/Croatian & English, Dutch
- Talk to locals: neighbours, authorities, family
- Connect "us" with local activities
- OPTIONAL: contact with people in "the other house": Vesna's or Nikolina's parents
- Activities & Time Coordinator : coordinate daily activities & schedule
- Collect ideas about outings, workshops, performances...
- Make weekly & daily plans
- Check with other teams about their needs for volunteers
- Help team-leaders to find volunteers for the activities of their teams
- Make a proposal for the daily schedule, include meals, workshops, cleaning, shopping...
- Keep everyone informed about the plans for that day & the next
- Remind people about their tasks
- Keep track of times & teach people how to adjust their planning
- Documentation
- making a web page in advance - as a manual or a guide or instructions
- taking photos during
- asking people for their input, impressions, experiences... photos...
- writing a report after : collect photos, tweets, blog posts...
- OPTIONAL: making a movie :)
- Maintenance
- small repairs
- making things we need: furniture, outside-structures
- helping with setting up tents & hammocks...
- Conflict resolution & group dynamics
- facilitating of the consensus-making process for groups
- moderate group discussions
- keeping up the group spirit: reminding people to share; reminding what our goals were ; and of CoC
- being a "trusted point of contact" / "confidante"
- mediaton between 2 people with a problem / conflict
- Everyone:
- ENJOYING & HAVING FUN
- Taking care of themselves
- Parenting = taking care of their own, & other people's kids
- Volunteering to do cleaning & cooking
- Giving workshops (optional!)
- Communicating :)
People Interested
- Arnd
- Kai & his family
- Dorien
- Shailoh
- Daoud & his family
- Patrice
- Webmind
- Leslie & her family
- natacha & hellekin
- Suncica, Oliver, Tara
- Zoki
- Podinski
- Nana
- Joost & his family
- Pepi? Des? Shane? Holger? Acracia? Nienke? Bjorn (tux) ? Leli? Evelien & Sicco?
- Marta & her family
Planning stage
Pricing Considerations
Transportation costs
Given the fact that the LikaCamp site isnt very close to civilization (yay!), transportation by car/taxi/horse is the most convenient manner to get anyone/anything there or back out again. Walking from the nearest bus/train location is technically feasible but involves about 12-14km through semi-rough terrain (dont expect to take a wheeled suitcase). Using a bike is possible too but would require some logistics first as there are no bikes on the premises normally.
Destination | Description | Reason | Distance | Duration | Cost |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Gracac | Closest town | Supermarket,tools,supplies,train,bus | 14km (28KM) | 24min (48min) | Eur2.66 (Eur5.32) |
Gospic | Large town | Rare goods,train,bus | 63km (126km) | 1h4min (2h8min) | Eur11.97 (Eur23.94) |
Food costs/prognosis
Other events 2018
- TBD: 6-7-8. July, ADM, Amsterdam https://tbd.camp
- KasKantine
- Transhackmeeting in Tarnac (.fr) August 9-12, 2018 http://trans.hackmeeting.org/
- Code Rood, Groningen: 24-31.8. https://code-rood.org/index.php/nl/actie-coderood-voor-groningen/
- Queer-feminist visit from Germany to Amsterdam: 14-23.9. https://naturfreundejugend-berlin.de/termine/niederlande
- WildPlukken
- /etc (eclectic tech carnival) 8-13 October in Bologna